Frequently
Asked Questions
about the
CSHA / CWHBA
Amalgamation Proceedings
Please remember that the whole
concept of Sport Horse Canada is a work in progress until
the necessary votes by each membership are completed. Some of
the answers may change slightly as we progress and programs become
more developed. You will notice a date beside each answer so
that you will see where things were at in the discussions when
the answer was posted.
Look for continuous updates here.
All updates will bear a date as well. The Joint Committee members
are doing the best that they can to iron out the difficulties.
It is an important time for all members to step up to the plate
and take an active role in your Association and the development
of a new vision for Sporthorse breeding in Canada.
Your questions are an important
part of the process so please keep them coming.
December 15,
2005 - Questions:
- 1.D. The website
clearly states that the amalgamation will not change the status
of any currently registered or identified horses. Will this extend
to the approval status of all currently licensed stallions; so
if your stallion is approved for breeding in one registry or
both, will it stay that way?
- 2.D. Will the
new "studbook" simply identify my next crop of foals
as F0 again...back at the beginning or will 25 years of work
and selected Canadian Sport Horse and Canadian Hunter breeding
excellence be recognized as it is now within the current CSHA
studbooks?
- 3.D. Will my current
CSH horse (with half warmblood pedigree) be entered in a "warmblood"
book while my percheron/trak/tb CSH mare may be put in some generic
"open" book notwithstanding that she is currently holding
F2 CSH papers?
- 4.D. Will this
still mean that Stallion owners will have to register with one
association or two separate for both (evolving and distinct categories)?
- 5.D. What will
take place for the two Registries' Stallion Auctions?
- 6.D. Why did the
April report on the status of the CWHBA not be made known publicly
until last month (September 2005) at Spruce MeadowsÅh?
- 7.D. What will
happen with future stallion prospects?
- 8.D. Will there
be one inspection and one inspection team for all studbooks,
or separate ones for each studbook?
- 9.D. What will
happen with the Stallion Performance Test?
- 10.D. Will it
be a requirement for all studbooks, for only some, or be shelved?
- 11.D. When a
new stallion prospect is approved, will he be eligible for breeding
to the mare base of both warmblood and open studbooks, or will
it be determined at the time of his inspection for which SINGLE
studbook he qualifies?
- 12.D. If the
latter happens, will this require separate sections in a combined
stallion directory; what then happens to the stallions that were
grandfathered into both studbooks?
- 13.D. I would
like to wait until the new organization is up and running to
register my foals of 2005. What will happen when the new studbooks
are in place?
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- November 1,
2005 - Questions:
- 1. What's with
the name?
- 2. What is the
Animal Pedigree Act (APA)?
- 3. When is the
Amalgamation expected to take place or be finalized?
- 4. How will I register
my foal of 2006?
- 5. Will my horses'
papers change?
- 6. What kind of
papers will my horses get and who will issue them?
- 7. If an amalgamation
takes place will my CSH mare be put into the warmblood book or
will she stay where she is?
- 8. When will a
vote take place for my organization?
- 9. What is Sport
Pony Canada and can I register my pony with them now?
- 10. Is there going
to be an "Amalgamated" Stallion Directory for 2006?
1.
What's with the name? (Nov.1/05)
The CWHBA representatives at
the first Amalgamation Joint Committee meeting held at Spruce
Meadows in April 2005 suggested the name "Sport Horse Canada".
It was agreed by all present that, at this point, this is a working title
only. It was felt that
it was as good a name as we could come up with at the time and
that it followed along with the general term "sporthorse"
that is used worldwide to describe horses involved in the part
of the industry that we represent. The Joint Committee understands
that it is a name that will not satisfy all members in both organizations
but that it was usable until such time as someone could present
a better one.
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2.
What is the Animal Pedigree Act (APA)? (Nov.1/05)
The Animal Pedigree Act is a
federal statute under which animal breed associations may be
incorporated and under which authority their by-laws are approved
for purposes of operating a breed registry. The APA confers certain
exclusive authorities on breed associations in return for requirements
that they meet the requirements of the APA in respect of registering
animals of their authorized breed(s) and that they represent
the breeders throughout Canada for that breed(s). All animal
registration and certification activities must comply with the
requirements of the APA. The APA allows for the fair marketing
of animal genetics both domestically and internationally, with
special provisions for enforcement under the responsibility in
Canada of the RCMP.
The Act's principal purposes
are breed improvement and protection of persons who raise and
purchase animals. For these purposes, the Act provides for the
establishment of animal pedigree associations that are authorized
to register and identify animals that have significant value.
Check out the following website
for more specific information: www.agr.gc.ca/redmeat/apamain.htm
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3.
When is the Amalgamation expected to take place or be finalized? (Nov.1/05)
The intent of the Joint Amalgamation
Committee is to be registering the foals of 2006 into the new
studbook structure by June of next year.
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4.
How will I register my foal of 2006? (Nov.1/05)
The Studbook Committee will be
working on the structural plan to present to Mr. David Trus at
Agriculture/Agri-Food Canada (AAFC) to ensure that it will work
within the requirement of the Animal Pedigree Act (APA). A working
document will then be prepared to present to the National Boards
of Directors of each Association by an as yet to be agreed upon
date. The new studbook structure and governance and administration
by-laws will dictate how and where you will register your foal.
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5.
Will my horses' papers change? (Nov.1/05)
No.
The intention is not to create
havoc, have horses change studbooks or move to different sections
of a studbook. At this stage the talks have centered on having
the foals of 2006 entered into the appropriate sections of the
new studbook structure. This process will be guided by the regulations
set forth by the Animal Pedigree Act (APA) and the placement
of animals into a book will not be a subjective choice on the
part of the horse owner.
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6.
What kind of papers will my horses get and who will issue them?
(Nov.1/05)
The issuance of any registration
or identification paper on an animal will be issued by the overall
governing body (which is presently being called Sport Horse Canada).
There would then be a designation on the paper as to which book
the horse is to found in. There is no decision at this time as
to where an office will be located or how it will be staffed,
etc. This falls under the Administration Committees' jurisdiction.
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7.
If an amalgamation takes place will my CSH mare be put into the
warmblood book or will she stay where she is? (Nov.1/05)
At this stage all horses that
are presently listed with either association will remain in the
studbook of the organization where they were originally identified.
It is the offspring of these animals that will henceforth populate
the new studbook structure according to the basic genetic guidelines
used by the Animal Pedigree Act (APA).
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8.
When will a vote take place for my organization? (Nov.1/05)
You will be notified as soon
as the Joint Committees and Boards of Directors of the CSHA and
CWHBA have agreed. Visit this site regularly or the main page
of your Association:
www.canadian-sport-horse.org ....... www.canadianwarmbloods.com
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9.
What is Sport Pony Canada and can I register my pony with them
now?
(Nov.1/05)
Sport Pony Canada (SPC) is in
the process of being established as an evolving breed under the
APA. SPC members are now working on the studbook structure, constitution
and by-laws. Your help would be greatly appreciated. You can
check for updates and contact Sport Pony Canada at www.sportponycanada.com
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10.
Is there going to be an "Amalgamated" Stallion Directory
for 2006?
(Nov.1805)
As much as it was the Joint Committee's
wish that this would be able to take place for the 2006 breeding
season it was finally decided at the September 13th meeting that
there were too many divergent paths yet to follow before we could
proceed with joint venture such as the Stallion Directory. There
will be two publications but it is hoped that we can at least
mail out the publications together to all members in December
'05 or early January '06.
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December 15, 2005
- Questions
1.D.
The website clearly states that the amalgamation will not change
the status of any currently registered or identified horses.
Will this extend to the approval status of all currently licensed
stallions; so if your stallion is approved for breeding in one
registry or both, will it stay that way? (Dec.15/05)
The Joint Committee will be dealing
with this issue in the near future. Under the APA section on
amalgamation of organizations, guidelines are set up to deal
with such issues. When the committee reaches this point in the
discussions they will refer to these guidelines to help the process.
Whether we are discussing mares or stallions, there are some
breeding animals in either studbooks that may not meet the requirements
of the other organization. An equitable arrangement will be looked
at.
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2.D.
Will the new "studbook" simply identify my next crop
of foals as F0 again...back at the beginning or will 25 years
of work and selected Canadian Sport Horse and Canadian Hunter
breeding excellence be recognized as it is now within the current
CSHA studbooks? (Dec.15/05)
As the Joint Amalgamation Committee
is awaiting a response of representatives of AAFC to some studbook
questions this is a question that cannot be answered at this
time. The committee members are working hard to ensure that this
is not the case. As an active CSHA member the new studbook changes
(passed by the membership at the 2004 AGM) may already answer
some membership questions pertaining to studbook inclusion. Please
refer to those changes.
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3.D.
Will my current CSH horse (with half warmblood pedigree) be entered
in a "warmblood" book while my percheron/trak/tb CSH
mare may be put in some generic "open" book notwithstanding
that she is currently holding F2 CSH papers? The second mare is more
valuable to me as a breeder and the CSHA organization because
of her level of genetic "pureness". I personally do
not want to see these true Canadian Sport Horses that many of
us have spent years and years and years to develop suddenly entered
into some "studbook" that indicates by the very name
OPEN to contain grade or substandard animals. (Dec.15/05)
The term 'Open Sporthorse' book
definitely needs to be worked on!
It was named such because at
the inaugural meeting the committees did not have a clear definitive
answer as to what would be included in either the warmblood or
the sporthorse books or how 'evolving' or 'distinct' status would
come in to play.
However, that being said, all
animals used for breeding within the organization would still
have to be inspected and meet the standards of conformation,
movement and type. The term 'Open' was not intended to denote
that the studbook was a 'catch all' for any and all comers regardless
of pedigree or type. The Joint Committees would appreciate any
suggestions regarding appropriate names.
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4.D.
Will this still mean that Stallion owners will have to register
with one association or two separate for both (evolving and distinct
categories)? (Dec.15/05)
To date, this is still being
determined by the joint studbook committee however the main aim
is to make this ONE organization with harmonious movement between
studbooks based on the principles of the APA. If we have stallions
that stand for all the books, then the Warmblood stallion owner
can participate in the breeding of sport ponies when bred with
pony mares and the offspring meet the Sport Pony requirements.
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5.D.
What will take place for the two Registries' Stallion Auctions?
(Dec.15/05)
We are looking at hosting one
Stallion Service Auction for the new Sport Horse Canada. One
of the main goals of this amalgamation is to make it more economically
feasible for stallion owners to market their stallions to mare
owners domestically and internationally. The Joint Programs Harmonization
Committee is looking for input for improved fund raising methods
and your comments, ideas and suggestions are most welcome.
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6.
D. Why did the April report on the status of the CWHBA not be
made known publicly until last month (September 2005) at Spruce
Meadows?
(Dec.15/05)
Members at large from both associations
are getting confused between the inspection report that was the
outcome of the investigation of the CWHBA and the actual response
and directions given by AAFC. The report itself was contracted
out and generated for the use of AAFC only and not intended for
public release, as per normal procedure.
Although the CWHBA Board received
a letter in April summarizing the findings of the inspection
report, the CWHBA also asked for a copy of the inspection report,
which it received in September 2005. The inspection report should
not be confused with the letter from Michael Presley to the CWHBA
board of directors. In April
2005, Michael Presley (Director General, AAFC signing authority
for the Minister) sent a letter and summary that outlined several
key findings, the issues in need of resolution and provided various
suggestions.
There is nothing else from the
inspection report, not provided in the letter and accompanying
summary that should be seen as particularly relevant to anyone
outside the CWHBA. The summary and letter are based on the results
of the inspection but also take into account a fuller analysis
of documents and correspondence regarding the CWHBA. The letter
represents the official position of AAFC, not the inspection
report.
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7.D.
What will happen with future stallion prospects? (Dec.15/05)
That is yet to be determined
by the studbook committee but should continue on in a positive
manner.
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8.D.
Will there be one inspection and one inspection team for all
studbooks, or separate ones for each studbook? (Dec.015/05)
As one of the main aims of the
new organization is to make the programs more comprehensive and
more affordable through unification, the joint committee is looking
at having one inspection/one inspection team for all studbooks.
Of course, there may be specific criteria that will differ between
studbooks and that would be taken into consideration in the inspection
process by qualified inspectors and through input from the breeding/studbook
committee.
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9.D.
What will happen with the Stallion Performance Test? (Dec.15/05)
From the Joint Studbook Committee
conference call of Oct. 19 /05, a decision to incorporate the
Stallion Performance Test and to utilize a set and standard of
Competition results from both Associations into a new format
were agreed upon. This will require more fine-tuning and appointed
members are working on this for the next meeting.
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10.D.
Will it be a requirement for all studbooks, for only some, or
be shelved?
(Dec.15/05)
Inspection will be required for
all studbooks. The studbook committee is working on requirements
and standards and will issue a statement when this has been completed.
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11.D.
When a new stallion prospect is approved, will he be eligible
for breeding to the mare base of both warmblood and open studbooks,
or will it be determined at the time of his inspection for which
SINGLE studbook he qualifies? (Dec.15/05)
At this time this question is
with the Studbook committee. The studbook committee is working
on requirements and standards and will issue a statement when
this has been completed.
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12.D.
If the latter happens, will this require separate sections in
a combined stallion directory; what then happens to the stallions
that were grandfathered into both studbooks? (Dec.15/05)
Good questions! The Studbook
Committee will address these and the answer posted as soon as
the studbook is developed. Your input has been forwarded to the
committee and answers will be posted as soon as we have them.
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13.D.
I would like to wait until the new organization is up and running
to register my foals of 2005. What will happen when the new studbooks
are in place?
(Dec.15/05)
As it is certainly your prerogative
to register your foals when you wish, it is highly recommended
by any organization to have your babies registered in the most
timely (therefore, if most registration rules are adhered to,
the most cost effective) manner. There are no guarantees that
the new organization will be fully functional in time to register
the 2006 foals although that is the goal of the Joint Amalgamation
Committee.
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